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Trump Posts Text of 8th Amendment After Levin Notes Constitutional Challenge to Excessive Fines
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Ubiquitous
2024-02-22 02:05:01 UTC
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“President Trump has an 8th amendment challenge to the unconstitutional fines
levied against him by a rogue judge,” Constitutional Scholar Mark Levin noted
Tuesday, commenting on the extraordinary $370 million fine (including
interest) imposed by a New York judge.

Later that day, former President Trump posted the text of the 8th Amendment
on TruthSocial.com platform, later linking to the same article linked by
Levin in his comment posted on X (formerly Twitter).

The text of the 8th Amendment states:

“Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”

In “Stalinist $370M judgment against Trump should be vacated immediately,”
Arthur Fergenson, senior counsel with Ansa Assuncao LLP, explains both the
“Stalinist” nature and 8th Amendment violation of Judge Arthur Engoron’s
onerous decree:

“Professor Jonathan Turley called the $370 million judgment
confiscatory, extreme and abusive. Professor Steven Calabresi termed
it a travesty and an unjust political act. The subhead for his online
commentary employed the term ‘Stalinist.’ Both law professors are right.

“Because the judgment does not relate to any loss, the $370 million is
not, properly understood, violative of the prohibition against grossly
excessive punitive damages. It does fall, however, directly within the
excessive fines clause of the Eighth Amendment to the United States
Constitution.”

As Levin, Fergenson, Turley, Calabresi and a host of other constitutional
experts have noted, the fine is extraordinary, not only because of its
unprecedented size, but also because it punishes Trump for a fraud
conviction, in which no one was actually defrauded.

President Trump has an 8th amendment challenge to the unconstitutional
fines levied against him by a rogue judge
https://t.co/moDes6vlVu

— Mark R. Levin (@marklevinshow) February 20, 2024

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Let's go Brandon!
John Doe
2024-02-27 00:55:09 UTC
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“President Trump has an 8th amendment challenge to the unconstitutional fines
levied against him by a rogue judge,” Constitutional Scholar Mark Levin noted
Tuesday, commenting on the extraordinary $370 million fine (including
interest) imposed by a New York judge.
Later that day, former President Trump posted the text of the 8th Amendment
on TruthSocial.com platform, later linking to the same article linked by
Levin in his comment posted on X (formerly Twitter).
“Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”
In “Stalinist $370M judgment against Trump should be vacated immediately,”
Arthur Fergenson, senior counsel with Ansa Assuncao LLP, explains both the
“Stalinist” nature and 8th Amendment violation of Judge Arthur Engoron’s
“Professor Jonathan Turley called the $370 million judgment
confiscatory, extreme and abusive. Professor Steven Calabresi termed
it a travesty and an unjust political act. The subhead for his online
commentary employed the term ‘Stalinist.’ Both law professors are right.
“Because the judgment does not relate to any loss, the $370 million is
not, properly understood, violative of the prohibition against grossly
excessive punitive damages. It does fall, however, directly within the
excessive fines clause of the Eighth Amendment to the United States
Constitution.”
And yet Trump filed in court a statement that the $83 million E Jean
Carrol judgment is too small to have the desired effect on such a rich
man as Trump.

Trump and his enablers too often want to have it both ways.
As Levin, Fergenson, Turley, Calabresi and a host of other constitutional
experts have noted, the fine is extraordinary, not only because of its
unprecedented size, but also because it punishes Trump for a fraud
conviction, in which no one was actually defrauded.
President Trump has an 8th amendment challenge to the unconstitutional
fines levied against him by a rogue judge
https://t.co/moDes6vlVu
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Let's go Brandon!
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