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Lujan Grisham's Illegal Gun Order Gets Wrecked by Judge, Injunction Now in Place
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Jack Carlson
2023-09-13 23:38:13 UTC
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NEW: Lujan Grisham's Illegal Gun Order Gets Wrecked by Judge,
Injunction Now in Place
Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham just lost the first major battle over her
illegal suspension of gun rights in New Mexico.
A judge put a temporary injunction in place after arguments concluded
in the courtroom, finding that the order to suspend open and concealed
carry rights in "high crime" areas was likely unconstitutional.
??BREAKING??
In a HUGE WIN thanks to NAGR's lawsuit, a New Mexico Judge has
issued a
TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER on the Governor's executive order banning
the public carrying of firearms in Albuquerque and the surrounding
county.
Join the fight here: https://t.co/9vF5enc960
pic.twitter.com/c8bfol9UOf
2023
The injunction will stay in place for 14 days, during which both sides
will be allowed to make motions. After that, a decision on whether to
extend the injunction or make a ruling will be made. For now, New
Mexican gun rights are secured.
According to reports, the governor's lawyer started to get noticeably
animated in the courtroom at one point and likely didn't help Lujan
Grisham's case.
The governor's lawyer is starting to raise her voice, saying the
governor
thinks the Second Amendment doesn't trump people's "right to walk down
the street." Says the judge should wait 30 days to see if the order
reduces crime.
The idea that law-abiding gun owners who are following state laws on
open and concealed carry are a threat to people walking down the
street is nonsense. It's the kind of ridiculous false dichotomy that
the left always tries to push in regard to guns. Regardless, it is
flatly untrue to state that the Second Amendment is somehow
subservient to public safety concerns. That's not how the Constitution
works. Governments, federal or state, can't simply decide that an
enumerated right poses a threat and suspend it.
That the governor's legal team would even try to make that argument
shows how little thought was put into the illegal order. It's becoming
more and more obvious that Lujan Grisham acted on impulse and ended up
in a corner she doesn't know how to escape. You could tell by her
initial press conference and subsequent social media posts that she
simply has no idea how to actually defend what she has done, not
legally or morally.
I don't have a crystal ball, but it looks like Lujan Grisham destroyed
her political career for a cheap stunt. It's going to be exceptionally
tough for her to run for the U.S. Senate or the presidency with this
now on her resume. Even Democrats have abandoned her, and voters will
never be able to trust her judgment again.
If the outcome is indeed that Lujan Grisham has spent her last term in
office as an elected official, that will be a punishment more than
earned. A politician who is willing to sign an illegal order that
suspends enumerated rights is willing to do just about anything, and
that's a scary proposition. Run, don't walk, to keep people like that
out of public office.
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/09/13/new-lujan-grishams-illegal-gun-
order-gets-wrecked-by-judge-injunction-now-in-place-n2163787
A politician who knowingly signs illegal orders should be tarred,
feathered and immediately permanently removed from office.
Siri Cruise
2023-09-14 00:58:44 UTC
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Post by Jack Carlson
A politician who knowingly signs illegal orders should be tarred,
feathered and immediately permanently removed from office.
Nobody knows if it is illegal. It was enjoined because a judge
thought it might be. It's still to be decided.
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Klaus Schadenfreude
2023-09-14 10:03:26 UTC
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Post by Jack Carlson
A politician who knowingly signs illegal orders should be tarred,
feathered and immediately permanently removed from office.
Nobody knows if it is illegal.
How fucking stupid *are* you?
Scout
2023-09-14 13:16:51 UTC
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Post by Jack Carlson
NEW: Lujan Grisham's Illegal Gun Order Gets Wrecked by Judge,
Injunction Now in Place
Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham just lost the first major battle over her
illegal suspension of gun rights in New Mexico.
A judge put a temporary injunction in place after arguments concluded
in the courtroom, finding that the order to suspend open and concealed
carry rights in "high crime" areas was likely unconstitutional.
??BREAKING??
In a HUGE WIN thanks to NAGR's lawsuit, a New Mexico Judge has
issued a
TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER on the Governor's executive order banning
the public carrying of firearms in Albuquerque and the surrounding
county.
Join the fight here: https://t.co/9vF5enc960
pic.twitter.com/c8bfol9UOf
2023
The injunction will stay in place for 14 days, during which both sides
will be allowed to make motions. After that, a decision on whether to
extend the injunction or make a ruling will be made. For now, New
Mexican gun rights are secured.
According to reports, the governor's lawyer started to get noticeably
animated in the courtroom at one point and likely didn't help Lujan
Grisham's case.
The governor's lawyer is starting to raise her voice, saying the
governor
thinks the Second Amendment doesn't trump people's "right to walk down
the street." Says the judge should wait 30 days to see if the order
reduces crime.
The idea that law-abiding gun owners who are following state laws on
open and concealed carry are a threat to people walking down the
street is nonsense. It's the kind of ridiculous false dichotomy that
the left always tries to push in regard to guns. Regardless, it is
flatly untrue to state that the Second Amendment is somehow
subservient to public safety concerns. That's not how the Constitution
works. Governments, federal or state, can't simply decide that an
enumerated right poses a threat and suspend it.
That the governor's legal team would even try to make that argument
shows how little thought was put into the illegal order. It's becoming
more and more obvious that Lujan Grisham acted on impulse and ended up
in a corner she doesn't know how to escape. You could tell by her
initial press conference and subsequent social media posts that she
simply has no idea how to actually defend what she has done, not
legally or morally.
I don't have a crystal ball, but it looks like Lujan Grisham destroyed
her political career for a cheap stunt. It's going to be exceptionally
tough for her to run for the U.S. Senate or the presidency with this
now on her resume. Even Democrats have abandoned her, and voters will
never be able to trust her judgment again.
If the outcome is indeed that Lujan Grisham has spent her last term in
office as an elected official, that will be a punishment more than
earned. A politician who is willing to sign an illegal order that
suspends enumerated rights is willing to do just about anything, and
that's a scary proposition. Run, don't walk, to keep people like that
out of public office.
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/09/13/new-lujan-grishams-illegal-gun-
order-gets-wrecked-by-judge-injunction-now-in-place-n2163787
A politician who knowingly signs illegal orders should be tarred,
feathered and immediately permanently removed from office.
Perhaps, but what you can legally do is sue them under 42USC1983

Which according to cases adjudicated by SCOTUS:
Can be brought against any state, county or city official, officer, or
employee
That such individuals have NO immunity from such a suit
That if successful the individual(s) sued are PERSONALLY liable for payment
of any awards granted.

In short, you are suing the person, not their office, position or job, and
thus have no immunity or protection from either the suit or the consequences
of such a suit.

While I'm not aware of any specific ruling by SCOTUS on this matter it would
be consistent that they couldn't use government resources or personal in
their defense.

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