Kamala Is the Bigger Threat to the Constitutional Order

[useapen]

Vote. Don't vote. I don't care. Just stop telling me that Vice
President Kamala Harris is going to save democracy.

Do I wish Republicans had nominated a more coherent, principled,
competent candidate for the presidency? Of course. But if anyone is
under the impression Democrats tapped such a person, I have news. Spend
some time trying to decipher Harris' swirling, platitude-ridden,
incoherent rhetoric and you will only be further convinced that we live
in an idiocracy.

Sure, there are many reasons why a movement conservative might feel
uncomfortable voting for former President Donald Trump. I get it. I'm
not a fan. But there are plenty of completely rational reasons to vote
for him, as well. First and foremost, the existence of the contemporary
Democratic Party.

Liz Cheney, and other Never Trumpers, tell me that the former president
poses a uniquely dangerous threat to the Constitution, and thus, I must
set aside any policy disagreements with Democrats and put country over
politics.

No doubt, this kind of self-glorification feels great, but it doesn't
really comport with reality.

For one thing, most of the Left's scariest warnings about Trump are
fiction. I don't believe The Atlantic when it tells me that Trump is a
would-be Hitler. I'm sorry, I don't believe he's going to throw all his
political enemies in concentration camps. Save the story for the next
Mueller investigation.

Considering recent history, in fact, it's clear to me that the Left is
far more adept and willing to weaponize the state to punish their
enemies. And I'm not just talking about the unprecedented lawfare
launched at Trump. I'm talking about debarring lawyers. I'm talking
about raiding the homes of pro-life activists. I'm talking about the
spying on Catholic churches and the Justice Department's chilling
speech by smearing parents who stood up to authoritarian school boards
as terrorists.

Moreover, even if Trump acted on his worst instincts, the damage would
likely be confined to his own presidency. Trump is about Trump. Harris
and Democrats, though, have openly embraced a string of consequential,
long-term attacks on the constitutional order. Ones that we can never
come back from.

Sorry, I don't accept that a woman who once complained to CNN's Jake
Tapper that "millions and millions of people" were speaking "without
any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop" is going to
be my champion of the Constitution.

Harris' running mate Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz recently argued that there
is "no guarantee" for free speech when it came to "misinformation" or
"hate speech," "especially around our democracy." If this were a
properly functioning republic, Walz would be thrown to the curb.

No honest person could possibly believe Democrats are better for free
expression.

Let's not forget either that Harris once promised to bypass Congress
and sign an executive order seizing rifles from millions of law-abiding
Americans. Though Democrats like to pretend otherwise, the Second
Amendment is still part of the Constitution.

Indeed, Harris is in no position to lecture anyone about any governing
norms. She frequently praises Biden for ignoring courts and
"forgiving" student loans by forcing taxpayers to foot the bill. She
supports trashing the legislative filibuster, empowering slim
majorities to destroy any semblance of federalism. Harris has backed
bills that would have overturned thousands of state laws, allowing
national Democrats to strip state election security measures, make
abortion legal until crowning, compel local religious hospitals to
perform gender transition surgeries, shut down religious foster care
organizations, and many other outrages.

None of this is to even speak of her efforts to destroy the Supreme
Court. Harris, who gleefully took part in the vile smearing of Justice
Brett Kavanaugh, supports packing the court -- the most serious attack
on the judicial branch since President Franklin Roosevelt's effort in
the 1930s. Senate Democrats say it is "virtually certain" they will
pass a "Supreme Court reform" bill that, among other assaults on the
judicial branch, will empower legislators to strip individual justices
of their power.

This is all just blatantly authoritarian stuff.

Right now -- in part, because of Trump -- the court is the only
institution in the United States that properly functions. There is no
telling what kind of arsonist Harris and Democrats would install.

At the very least, I know Trump has a track record of not only
nominating decent jurists but sticking with them under massive
pressure.

It is odd, indeed, that Democrats, who support price controls, state
mandates and a slew of other economic intrusions that force
corporations to bend to their will, are constantly warning us about the
specter of "fascism."

We have no clue if the Trump presidency plays out. Trumpism is whatever
Trump says it is whenever he feels like it. It might well be a
disaster. But Harris offers me nothing.

https://pjmedia.com/davidhasanyi/2024/10/25/kamala-is-the-bigger-
threat-to-the-constitutional-order-n4933627

[a425couple]

Post by useapen
Vote. Don't vote. I don't care. Just stop telling me that Vice
President Kamala Harris is going to save democracy.
Do I wish Republicans had nominated a more coherent, principled,
competent candidate for the presidency? Of course. But if anyone is
under the impression Democrats tapped such a person, I have news. Spend
some time trying to decipher Harris' swirling, platitude-ridden,
incoherent rhetoric and you will only be further convinced that we live
in an idiocracy.
Sure, there are many reasons why a movement conservative might feel
uncomfortable voting for former President Donald Trump. I get it. I'm
not a fan. But there are plenty of completely rational reasons to vote
for him, as well. First and foremost, the existence of the contemporary
Democratic Party.

This is a good one. Thank you for posting it.

Post by useapen
Liz Cheney, and other Never Trumpers, tell me that the former president
poses a uniquely dangerous threat to the Constitution, and thus, I must
set aside any policy disagreements with Democrats and put country over
politics.
No doubt, this kind of self-glorification feels great, but it doesn't
really comport with reality.
For one thing, most of the Left's scariest warnings about Trump are
fiction. I don't believe The Atlantic when it tells me that Trump is a
would-be Hitler. I'm sorry, I don't believe he's going to throw all his
political enemies in concentration camps. Save the story for the next
Mueller investigation.
Considering recent history, in fact, it's clear to me that the Left is
far more adept and willing to weaponize the state to punish their
enemies. And I'm not just talking about the unprecedented lawfare
launched at Trump. I'm talking about debarring lawyers. I'm talking
about raiding the homes of pro-life activists. I'm talking about the
spying on Catholic churches and the Justice Department's chilling
speech by smearing parents who stood up to authoritarian school boards
as terrorists.
Moreover, even if Trump acted on his worst instincts, the damage would
likely be confined to his own presidency. Trump is about Trump. Harris
and Democrats, though, have openly embraced a string of consequential,
long-term attacks on the constitutional order. Ones that we can never
come back from.
Sorry, I don't accept that a woman who once complained to CNN's Jake
Tapper that "millions and millions of people" were speaking "without
any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop" is going to
be my champion of the Constitution.
Harris' running mate Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz recently argued that there
is "no guarantee" for free speech when it came to "misinformation" or
"hate speech," "especially around our democracy." If this were a
properly functioning republic, Walz would be thrown to the curb.
No honest person could possibly believe Democrats are better for free
expression.
Let's not forget either that Harris once promised to bypass Congress
and sign an executive order seizing rifles from millions of law-abiding
Americans. Though Democrats like to pretend otherwise, the Second
Amendment is still part of the Constitution.
Indeed, Harris is in no position to lecture anyone about any governing
norms. She frequently praises Biden for ignoring courts and
"forgiving" student loans by forcing taxpayers to foot the bill. She
supports trashing the legislative filibuster, empowering slim
majorities to destroy any semblance of federalism. Harris has backed
bills that would have overturned thousands of state laws, allowing
national Democrats to strip state election security measures, make
abortion legal until crowning, compel local religious hospitals to
perform gender transition surgeries, shut down religious foster care
organizations, and many other outrages.
None of this is to even speak of her efforts to destroy the Supreme
Court. Harris, who gleefully took part in the vile smearing of Justice
Brett Kavanaugh, supports packing the court -- the most serious attack
on the judicial branch since President Franklin Roosevelt's effort in
the 1930s. Senate Democrats say it is "virtually certain" they will
pass a "Supreme Court reform" bill that, among other assaults on the
judicial branch, will empower legislators to strip individual justices
of their power.
This is all just blatantly authoritarian stuff.
Right now -- in part, because of Trump -- the court is the only
institution in the United States that properly functions. There is no
telling what kind of arsonist Harris and Democrats would install.
At the very least, I know Trump has a track record of not only
nominating decent jurists but sticking with them under massive
pressure.
It is odd, indeed, that Democrats, who support price controls, state
mandates and a slew of other economic intrusions that force
corporations to bend to their will, are constantly warning us about the
specter of "fascism."
We have no clue if the Trump presidency plays out. Trumpism is whatever
Trump says it is whenever he feels like it. It might well be a
disaster. But Harris offers me nothing.
https://pjmedia.com/davidhasanyi/2024/10/25/kamala-is-the-bigger-
threat-to-the-constitutional-order-n4933627

[Felmer Udd]

Post by useapen
Vote. Don't vote. I don't care. Just stop telling me that Vice
President Kamala Harris is going to save democracy.
Do I wish Republicans had nominated a more coherent, principled,
competent candidate for the presidency? Of course. But if anyone is
under the impression Democrats tapped such a person, I have news. Spend
some time trying to decipher Harris' swirling, platitude-ridden,
incoherent rhetoric and you will only be further convinced that we live
in an idiocracy.
Sure, there are many reasons why a movement conservative might feel
uncomfortable voting for former President Donald Trump. I get it. I'm
not a fan. But there are plenty of completely rational reasons to vote
for him, as well. First and foremost, the existence of the contemporary
Democratic Party.

This is a good one.  Thank you for posting it.

Agree. This is actually a good read.

Post by useapen
Liz Cheney, and other Never Trumpers, tell me that the former president
poses a uniquely dangerous threat to the Constitution, and thus, I must
set aside any policy disagreements with Democrats and put country over
politics.
No doubt, this kind of self-glorification feels great, but it doesn't
really comport with reality.
For one thing, most of the Left's scariest warnings about Trump are
fiction. I don't believe The Atlantic when it tells me that Trump is a
would-be Hitler. I'm sorry, I don't believe he's going to throw all his
political enemies in concentration camps. Save the story for the next
Mueller investigation.
Considering recent history, in fact, it's clear to me that the Left is
far more adept and willing to weaponize the state to punish their
enemies. And I'm not just talking about the unprecedented lawfare
launched at Trump. I'm talking about debarring lawyers. I'm talking
about raiding the homes of pro-life activists. I'm talking about the
spying on Catholic churches and the Justice Department's chilling
speech by smearing parents who stood up to authoritarian school boards
as terrorists.
Moreover, even if Trump acted on his worst instincts, the damage would
likely be confined to his own presidency. Trump is about Trump. Harris
and Democrats, though, have openly embraced a string of consequential,
long-term attacks on the constitutional order. Ones that we can never
come back from.
Sorry, I don't accept that a woman who once complained to CNN's Jake
Tapper that "millions and millions of people" were speaking "without
any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop" is going to
be my champion of the Constitution.
Harris' running mate Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz recently argued that there
is "no guarantee" for free speech when it came to "misinformation" or
"hate speech," "especially around our democracy." If this were a
properly functioning republic, Walz would be thrown to the curb.
No honest person could possibly believe Democrats are better for free
expression.
Let's not forget either that Harris once promised to bypass Congress
and sign an executive order seizing rifles from millions of law-abiding
Americans. Though Democrats like to pretend otherwise, the Second
Amendment is still part of the Constitution.
Indeed, Harris is in no position to lecture anyone about any governing
norms. She frequently praises Biden for ignoring courts and
"forgiving" student loans by forcing taxpayers to foot the bill. She
supports trashing the legislative filibuster, empowering slim
majorities to destroy any semblance of federalism. Harris has backed
bills that would have overturned thousands of state laws, allowing
national Democrats to strip state election security measures, make
abortion legal until crowning, compel local religious hospitals to
perform gender transition surgeries, shut down religious foster care
organizations, and many other outrages.
None of this is to even speak of her efforts to destroy the Supreme
Court. Harris, who gleefully took part in the vile smearing of Justice
Brett Kavanaugh, supports packing the court -- the most serious attack
on the judicial branch since President Franklin Roosevelt's effort in
the 1930s. Senate Democrats say it is "virtually certain" they will
pass a "Supreme Court reform" bill that, among other assaults on the
judicial branch, will empower legislators to strip individual justices
of their power.
This is all just blatantly authoritarian stuff.
Right now -- in part, because of Trump -- the court is the only
institution in the United States that properly functions. There is no
telling what kind of arsonist Harris and Democrats would install.
At the very least, I know Trump has a track record of not only
nominating decent jurists but sticking with them under massive
pressure.
It is odd, indeed, that Democrats, who support price controls, state
mandates and a slew of other economic intrusions that force
corporations to bend to their will, are constantly warning us about the
specter of "fascism."
We have no clue if the Trump presidency plays out. Trumpism is whatever
Trump says it is whenever he feels like it. It might well be a
disaster. But Harris offers me nothing.
https://pjmedia.com/davidhasanyi/2024/10/25/kamala-is-the-bigger-
threat-to-the-constitutional-order-n4933627

[[e-mail]]

Post by useapen
Vote. Don't vote. I don't care. Just stop telling me that Vice
President Kamala Harris is going to save democracy.
Do I wish Republicans had nominated a more coherent, principled,
competent candidate for the presidency? Of course. But if anyone is
under the impression Democrats tapped such a person, I have news. Spend
some time trying to decipher Harris' swirling, platitude-ridden,
incoherent rhetoric and you will only be further convinced that we live
in an idiocracy.
Sure, there are many reasons why a movement conservative might feel
uncomfortable voting for former President Donald Trump. I get it. I'm
not a fan. But there are plenty of completely rational reasons to vote
for him, as well. First and foremost, the existence of the contemporary
Democratic Party.

This is a good one.  Thank you for posting it.

Agree.  This is actually a good read.

Post by useapen
Liz Cheney, and other Never Trumpers, tell me that the former president
poses a uniquely dangerous threat to the Constitution, and thus, I must
set aside any policy disagreements with Democrats and put country over
politics.
No doubt, this kind of self-glorification feels great, but it doesn't
really comport with reality.
For one thing, most of the Left's scariest warnings about Trump are
fiction. I don't believe The Atlantic when it tells me that Trump is a
would-be Hitler. I'm sorry, I don't believe he's going to throw all his
political enemies in concentration camps. Save the story for the next
Mueller investigation.
Considering recent history, in fact, it's clear to me that the Left is
far more adept and willing to weaponize the state to punish their
enemies. And I'm not just talking about the unprecedented lawfare
launched at Trump. I'm talking about debarring lawyers. I'm talking
about raiding the homes of pro-life activists. I'm talking about the
spying on Catholic churches and the Justice Department's chilling
speech by smearing parents who stood up to authoritarian school boards
as terrorists.
Moreover, even if Trump acted on his worst instincts, the damage would
likely be confined to his own presidency. Trump is about Trump. Harris
and Democrats, though, have openly embraced a string of consequential,
long-term attacks on the constitutional order. Ones that we can never
come back from.
Sorry, I don't accept that a woman who once complained to CNN's Jake
Tapper that "millions and millions of people" were speaking "without
any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop" is going to
be my champion of the Constitution.
Harris' running mate Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz recently argued that there
is "no guarantee" for free speech when it came to "misinformation" or
"hate speech," "especially around our democracy." If this were a
properly functioning republic, Walz would be thrown to the curb.
No honest person could possibly believe Democrats are better for free
expression.
Let's not forget either that Harris once promised to bypass Congress
and sign an executive order seizing rifles from millions of law-abiding
Americans. Though Democrats like to pretend otherwise, the Second
Amendment is still part of the Constitution.
Indeed, Harris is in no position to lecture anyone about any governing
norms. She frequently praises Biden for ignoring courts and
"forgiving" student loans by forcing taxpayers to foot the bill. She
supports trashing the legislative filibuster, empowering slim
majorities to destroy any semblance of federalism. Harris has backed
bills that would have overturned thousands of state laws, allowing
national Democrats to strip state election security measures, make
abortion legal until crowning, compel local religious hospitals to
perform gender transition surgeries, shut down religious foster care
organizations, and many other outrages.
None of this is to even speak of her efforts to destroy the Supreme
Court. Harris, who gleefully took part in the vile smearing of Justice
Brett Kavanaugh, supports packing the court -- the most serious attack
on the judicial branch since President Franklin Roosevelt's effort in
the 1930s. Senate Democrats say it is "virtually certain" they will
pass a "Supreme Court reform" bill that, among other assaults on the
judicial branch, will empower legislators to strip individual justices
of their power.
This is all just blatantly authoritarian stuff.
Right now -- in part, because of Trump -- the court is the only
institution in the United States that properly functions. There is no
telling what kind of arsonist Harris and Democrats would install.
At the very least, I know Trump has a track record of not only
nominating decent jurists but sticking with them under massive
pressure.
It is odd, indeed, that Democrats, who support price controls, state
mandates and a slew of other economic intrusions that force
corporations to bend to their will, are constantly warning us about the
specter of "fascism."
We have no clue if the Trump presidency plays out. Trumpism is whatever
Trump says it is whenever he feels like it. It might well be a
disaster. But Harris offers me nothing.
https://pjmedia.com/davidhasanyi/2024/10/25/kamala-is-the-bigger-
threat-to-the-constitutional-order-n4933627

Not voting for Trump is, despite his annoying characteristics,
a vote for K and her neo-Marxist fellow-travelers. There won't
BE a real 'election' in the USA afterwards.

The old joke in the USSR was that you DID have a right to
vote ... for the Communist-Party candidate or the other
Communist-Party candidate .......

Trump WAS the POTUS once before. No armies of jackboots
strutting down the streets, no death camps, nobody
disappeared in the night, no hyper-extremism of any
type. Sorry, but NOT a 'fascist'.

However listen to K and her friends on those very annoying
constitutional rights and such and .... !

[Baxter]

Post by ***@ud0s4.net
Trump WAS the POTUS once before. No armies of jackboots
strutting down the streets, no death camps, nobody
disappeared in the night, no hyper-extremism of any
type. Sorry, but NOT a 'fascist'.
However listen to K and her friends on those very annoying
constitutional rights and such and .... !

Actually, under tRump people DID "disappeared in the night"

And "armies of jackboots strutting down the streets - that's the Proud Boys
and other such groups.

"Death Camps" Well rember that Hitler didn't start with death camps - that
came later. And now tRump is talking about exactly those things if he
regains the Presidency.

[useapen]

Post by a425couple

Post by useapen
Vote. Don't vote. I don't care. Just stop telling me that Vice
President Kamala Harris is going to save democracy.
Do I wish Republicans had nominated a more coherent, principled,
competent candidate for the presidency? Of course. But if anyone is
under the impression Democrats tapped such a person, I have news.
Spend some time trying to decipher Harris' swirling,
platitude-ridden, incoherent rhetoric and you will only be further
convinced that we live in an idiocracy.
Sure, there are many reasons why a movement conservative might feel
uncomfortable voting for former President Donald Trump. I get it.
I'm not a fan. But there are plenty of completely rational reasons
to vote for him, as well. First and foremost, the existence of the
contemporary Democratic Party.

This is a good one. Thank you for posting it.

Sums things up pretty well doesn't it.

Post by a425couple

Post by useapen
Liz Cheney, and other Never Trumpers, tell me that the former
president poses a uniquely dangerous threat to the Constitution, and
thus, I must set aside any policy disagreements with Democrats and
put country over politics.
No doubt, this kind of self-glorification feels great, but it
doesn't really comport with reality.
For one thing, most of the Left's scariest warnings about Trump are
fiction. I don't believe The Atlantic when it tells me that Trump is
a would-be Hitler. I'm sorry, I don't believe he's going to throw
all his political enemies in concentration camps. Save the story for
the next Mueller investigation.
Considering recent history, in fact, it's clear to me that the Left
is far more adept and willing to weaponize the state to punish their
enemies. And I'm not just talking about the unprecedented lawfare
launched at Trump. I'm talking about debarring lawyers. I'm talking
about raiding the homes of pro-life activists. I'm talking about the
spying on Catholic churches and the Justice Department's chilling
speech by smearing parents who stood up to authoritarian school
boards as terrorists.
Moreover, even if Trump acted on his worst instincts, the damage
would likely be confined to his own presidency. Trump is about
Trump. Harris and Democrats, though, have openly embraced a string
of consequential, long-term attacks on the constitutional order.
Ones that we can never come back from.
Sorry, I don't accept that a woman who once complained to CNN's Jake
Tapper that "millions and millions of people" were speaking "without
any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop" is going
to be my champion of the Constitution.
Harris' running mate Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz recently argued that
there is "no guarantee" for free speech when it came to
"misinformation" or "hate speech," "especially around our
democracy." If this were a properly functioning republic, Walz
would be thrown to the curb.
No honest person could possibly believe Democrats are better for
free expression.
Let's not forget either that Harris once promised to bypass Congress
and sign an executive order seizing rifles from millions of
law-abiding Americans. Though Democrats like to pretend otherwise,
the Second Amendment is still part of the Constitution.
Indeed, Harris is in no position to lecture anyone about any
governing norms. She frequently praises Biden for ignoring courts
and "forgiving" student loans by forcing taxpayers to foot the
bill. She supports trashing the legislative filibuster, empowering
slim majorities to destroy any semblance of federalism. Harris has
backed bills that would have overturned thousands of state laws,
allowing national Democrats to strip state election security
measures, make abortion legal until crowning, compel local religious
hospitals to perform gender transition surgeries, shut down
religious foster care organizations, and many other outrages.
None of this is to even speak of her efforts to destroy the Supreme
Court. Harris, who gleefully took part in the vile smearing of
Justice Brett Kavanaugh, supports packing the court -- the most
serious attack on the judicial branch since President Franklin
Roosevelt's effort in the 1930s. Senate Democrats say it is
"virtually certain" they will pass a "Supreme Court reform" bill
that, among other assaults on the judicial branch, will empower
legislators to strip individual justices of their power.
This is all just blatantly authoritarian stuff.
Right now -- in part, because of Trump -- the court is the only
institution in the United States that properly functions. There is
no telling what kind of arsonist Harris and Democrats would install.
At the very least, I know Trump has a track record of not only
nominating decent jurists but sticking with them under massive
pressure.
It is odd, indeed, that Democrats, who support price controls, state
mandates and a slew of other economic intrusions that force
corporations to bend to their will, are constantly warning us about
the specter of "fascism."
We have no clue if the Trump presidency plays out. Trumpism is
whatever Trump says it is whenever he feels like it. It might well
be a disaster. But Harris offers me nothing.
https://pjmedia.com/davidhasanyi/2024/10/25/kamala-is-the-bigger-
threat-to-the-constitutional-order-n4933627

[Josh Rosenbluth]

On 10/25/2024 1:36 AM, useapen wrote:

{snip}

Post by useapen
Liz Cheney, and other Never Trumpers, tell me that the former president
poses a uniquely dangerous threat to the Constitution, and thus, I must
set aside any policy disagreements with Democrats and put country over
politics.
No doubt, this kind of self-glorification feels great, but it doesn't
really comport with reality.

Did you miss when Trump tried to steal the 2020 election and thus block
the peaceful transfer of power? That's why policy takes a backseat and
why Trump is unfit for office.